Okay, so this is another instance of "Maru thinks too long about how to phrase things and may just not be explaining well" but I'll give it a shot.
I do think it is a really good idea to have a list of valid evidence, and using the evidence top level comment more is definitely a good idea. What was making me uncomfortable about the situation earlier with the rope was the way it was handled OOCly - namely, it seemed as though the intent was to quash any and all IC discussion about the rope right then and there since you were saying things like "i'm putting my foot down on this." I understand perfectly where you're coming from on that front which is why I immediately offered to delete tags that would have prolonged that discussion and potentially obfuscated the case. But I do feel like the way you approached this in chat was pretty heavy handed.
If it helps explain where I'm coming from better, my perspective here is that I play a character that manipulates and lies all the time. Simply put, Dahlia heard Zack talking about a rope and Chiaki being tied up, and regardless or whether or not that was factually true, because that implicated Seraphina (who she just frankly dislikes) she was going to run with that and argue for that being the case until someone put a stop to that kind of chatter with evidence to counter that view. Dahlia's a bag of dicks, in other words.
TL;DR I agree 100% that had Seraphina gotten executed on the basis of the rope shenanigans, it would have been unfair but ICA=ICC, and it's just my opinion that telling the player base OOCly "hey this is fake" to keep everyone on the same page and letting the IC convo run its course would have been ideal instead of trying to stifle IC discussion. As long as everyone knows it's a red herring, that's good enough imo. In any case, I don't foresee this coming up as an issue again since there'll be more rigorous checks on the evidence in the future, but I did want to clarify what exactly had bothered me about it.
I guess on a similar line of thought... I'm only speaking for myself on this one, but I would actually really prefer that you didn't use Zange to drop hints and just played her normally. I don't mind hints OOCly like on discord/plurk or what have you if you feel like giving them because the trial is going haywire, but I guess I just don't really feel all that comfortable with how the IC and OOC lines are blurring with Zange. If I'm the only one who feels this way about how Zange is used, by all means continue to do what you're doing now, but this is just my two cents.
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I do think it is a really good idea to have a list of valid evidence, and using the evidence top level comment more is definitely a good idea. What was making me uncomfortable about the situation earlier with the rope was the way it was handled OOCly - namely, it seemed as though the intent was to quash any and all IC discussion about the rope right then and there since you were saying things like "i'm putting my foot down on this." I understand perfectly where you're coming from on that front which is why I immediately offered to delete tags that would have prolonged that discussion and potentially obfuscated the case. But I do feel like the way you approached this in chat was pretty heavy handed.
If it helps explain where I'm coming from better, my perspective here is that I play a character that manipulates and lies all the time. Simply put, Dahlia heard Zack talking about a rope and Chiaki being tied up, and regardless or whether or not that was factually true, because that implicated Seraphina (who she just frankly dislikes) she was going to run with that and argue for that being the case until someone put a stop to that kind of chatter with evidence to counter that view. Dahlia's a bag of dicks, in other words.
TL;DR I agree 100% that had Seraphina gotten executed on the basis of the rope shenanigans, it would have been unfair but ICA=ICC, and it's just my opinion that telling the player base OOCly "hey this is fake" to keep everyone on the same page and letting the IC convo run its course would have been ideal instead of trying to stifle IC discussion. As long as everyone knows it's a red herring, that's good enough imo. In any case, I don't foresee this coming up as an issue again since there'll be more rigorous checks on the evidence in the future, but I did want to clarify what exactly had bothered me about it.
I guess on a similar line of thought... I'm only speaking for myself on this one, but I would actually really prefer that you didn't use Zange to drop hints and just played her normally. I don't mind hints OOCly like on discord/plurk or what have you if you feel like giving them because the trial is going haywire, but I guess I just don't really feel all that comfortable with how the IC and OOC lines are blurring with Zange. If I'm the only one who feels this way about how Zange is used, by all means continue to do what you're doing now, but this is just my two cents.